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Post by Vida on Jul 7, 2015 11:47:13 GMT 1
FREE AGENCY/ROSTER RULES (Some of them?) --- these rules arent about draft, but when the season is already started and some players dont have a team and want to be Free Agents.
Free Agent/Roster Rules
1. Every new player in league can state his FA topic the same like undrafted or cut players can.
2. Returning league players must wait till the game 8.
3. Only the best players of Spaceball league can’t come to the ssn as FAs during whole ssn.There will be exceptions to this rule and they will be enforced at admins’ good will.
4. During a season period, GM has 48 hours to put a claim in on Free Agent after he posted. Post in the persons Free Agent topic that you wish to claim them, if nobody posts before you who is above you on the waiver list you get them.
5. The Waiver order will start out as reverse draft order. After 8 games, we switch to reverse standings.
6. Claims must be visible without any special text. No edited posts will be count as a claim.
7. Roster/Trade/FA Deadline: Game XX (moves must be done by 19:30 CET on this day)
8. As an admin team, we are giving ourselves to veto any trade which we think is deem unfair. This probably won’t happen, but this should keep our league fair and transparent.
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Post by Gele on Jul 7, 2015 12:14:54 GMT 1
Only the best players of Spaceball league can’t come to the ssn as FAs during whole ssn. They can't play at all, or they're not free agents and can't be chosen? I don't understand this sentence. The Waiver order will start out as reverse draft order. After 8 games, we switch to reverse standings. What is the waiver list/order? Roster/Trade/FA Deadline: Game XX (moves must be done by 19:30 CET on this day) Deadline for? Is this each day new deadline? any trade which we think is deem unfair What is considered an unfair trade?
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Post by Vida on Jul 7, 2015 12:38:50 GMT 1
They can't play at all, or they're not free agents and can't be chosen? I don't understand this sentence. This was meant like... the best players CAN play only if they sign up for the draft. Well, everyone should sign up for draft and only exceptions can realize after that they can actually play. But for the best players it has a huge impact for the season, when suddenly one GM can claim one of the best players from the league who would be in the 1st draft round if he signed up for draft. and the GM could have two 1st rounder elite player... and they can plan it as friends. So we should dissallow this. What is the waiver list/order? We can call it as something else... but its the order Which GM has the priority on claiming the FA (Free Agent) in season which has already started. if my waiver order is 1. (the highest one) I can claim any player and he will be mine because nobody has higher priority. When the claimed player is mine (nobody else with higher waiver order claimed him) I fall down to the last waiver order and now the highest priority in FAs has the previously 2nd GM in this order if he wants. If I claim another FA again and any other GM claims him too, I cant get the player now. Deadline for? Is this each day new deadline? No, there should be some day when 70-80% of matches are done when all GM have fixed rosters and cant change it only for the last 2 matches for example, basically to give the title to his friend and cut somebody from the team just before the end. What is considered an unfair trade? When lipton gets TotalPlayer from Michi and Michi gets TGeb from lipton ... For example, some team is already on the last place and the GM is a friend with top team GM so he just helps him with one elite player more for some average one and they are ruining the parity and fairplay.
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Post by Gele on Jul 7, 2015 12:48:37 GMT 1
This was meant like... the best players CAN play only if they sign up for the draft. Well, everyone should sign up for draft and only exceptions can realize after that they can actually play. But for the best players it has a huge impact for the season, when suddenly one GM can claim one of the best players from the league who would be in the 1st draft round if he signed up for draft. and the GM could have two 1st rounder elite player... and they can plan it as friends. So we should dissallow this. And when is someone 'one of the best' players? We should have guidelines for that then like amount of goals or minutes in previous season or whatever, otherwise it will be subjective. Others make sense now. When lipton gets TotalPlayer from Michi and Michi gets TGeb from lipton In principle good to have this, but this can be subjective again if we are not careful (as in: we think that player is better than another).
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Post by Vida on Jul 7, 2015 12:55:59 GMT 1
And when is someone 'one of the best' players? We should have guidelines for that then like amount of goals or minutes in previous season or whatever, otherwise it will be subjective. Others make sense now. Idk, just everybody will agree about it that this player would be the 1st or 2nd round so it can ruin the fairplay. No exact guidelines are needed, just few nice working brains. Actually I hope this wont happen and for the ssn6 we can use this rule as 1st and 2nd (or also 3rd) draft rounders cant join the league in the middle as FAs. and to be honest, I wanted to take off this rule because it says what TO NOT DO and so it can just say to somebody - oH well, nice idea, lets make it, even if that man wasnt so smart before to think about this. In principle good to have this, but this can be subjective again if we are not careful (as in: we think that player is better than another). I think this will never happen but still, we can consider it from case to case. it can be also just trade like one elite player has suddenly 50% activity and one over-average has the 100% activity, so its fair then. Of course there will be still differences in players skills and fairness of the trades, but this difference cant be too big.
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Post by Gele on Jul 9, 2015 20:02:47 GMT 1
rewritten
Free Agent/Roster Rules (during the season)
Free Agent topic: 1. Every new player during a league season can state his Free Agents (FA) topic, the same applies to not-drafted or cut players. 2. Players, who previously played in the spaceball league and didn't sign up for Draft, need to wait till round 8 before they are allowed to post their FA topic.
Free Agent claiming: 3. During the season, a General Manager (GM) has 48 hours to put a claim on a Free Agent after the FA posted. Post in the persons Free Agent topic that you wish to claim him, if nobody posts before you, who is above you on the Waiver Ranking, you get the Free Agent for your team. 4. Claims must be visible without any special text surrounding it. Edited posts will not be seen as a claim.
Waiver Ranking: 5. The Waiver Ranking will start as the reversed draft order. After 8 rounds, the ranking will switch to reversed team standings.
Roster/Trade/FA Deadline: 6. Moves/trades/claims must be done by 19:30 CET on every play day.
Trading: 7. The spaceball league organization always has the possibility to deny a trade which can be considered as unfair, which can be due to skill difference or activity difference among others.
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3. Only the best players of Spaceball league can’t come to the ssn as FAs during whole ssn.There will be exceptions to this rule and they will be enforced at admins’ good will.
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Post by Vida on Jul 9, 2015 20:50:00 GMT 1
Nice But why did you delete that point about the elite players in the league. It says that for transparency and fairplay everyone should just join the draft and without calculating with FAs. If some FA elite player was in the draft, somebody would pick him as 2nd overall pick and it would change all the draft because now 2nd overall pick is free and the GM with 3 choice can consider him, maybe pick him instead of the guy as picked as 3rd overall... and after the 3rd choice is available for all other GMs again. It just force every elite player to sign up for draft for fairplay. Another point of this is that all GMs has one elite player by the draft and they can get 1 elite one who can change the league having 2 1st rounders in one team. But ok, if you dont like this rule, we can have it like you rewritten and will see what happens, maybe it will be ok anyway.
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Post by Gele on Jul 9, 2015 20:52:57 GMT 1
Nice But why did you delete that point about the elite players in the league. It says that for transparency and fairplay everyone should just join the draft and without calculating with FAs. If some FA elite player was in the draft, somebody would pick him as 2nd overall pick and it would change all the draft because now 2nd overall pick is free and the GM with 3 choice can consider him, maybe pick him instead of the guy as picked as 3rd overall... and after the 3rd choice is available for all other GMs again. It just force every elite player to sign up for draft for fairplay. Another point of this is that all GMs has one elite player by the draft and they can get 1 elite one who can change the league having 2 1st rounders in one team. But ok, if you dont like this rule, we can have it like you rewritten and will see what happens, maybe it will be ok anyway. Because it's almost the same as rule 2 with the exception it is for the whole season instead of 8 rounds.
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Post by Vida on Jul 9, 2015 21:15:38 GMT 1
Ye because the rule 2 says this to all league players and that cancelled one is about "the best players" in a league. Anyway I will be fine also without that rule about best players.
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Post by Gele on Jul 9, 2015 21:37:45 GMT 1
Ye because the rule 2 says this to all league players and that cancelled one is about "the best players" in a league. Anyway I will be fine also without that rule about best players. I know, but that meant a good player who missed the draft for whatever reason can't play for a whole season.
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